Vino
๐ท Itโs your cellar, your dear cantina ๐ท
vino is an Emacs program for cellar tracking and wine rating. Every entity is stored as separate Org file, vino provides convenient functions to query and manipulate these files.
Please note, that vino does not ship with collection of Org file for wines, producers, grapes, appellations or wine regions. The idea is that each user creates their own collection and learns about huge world of wine in the process.
Checkout barberry.io as a showcase of what can be built on top of vino together with vulpea.
Goals
- Provide functionality to create wine entries and to rate them.
- Provide functionality to track availability of wine entries.
- Provide functionality to evolve rating system.
- Provide functionality for maintenance.
- Provide functionality to query wine entries based on different predicates.
- Be able to handle big (1000+) collection of wine entries.
Status and roadmap
This project started as a rewrite of +org-wine.el from org-brain to org-roam (of course, using vulpea) in performance pursuit (it become critical as I have 1k+ of wine entries and around 2k of grape, producers, appellations, regions notes).
- [X] v0.1 - feature parity with +org-wine.el.
- [X] v0.2 - dedicated database for
vinoneeds. - [X] v0.3 - migration to
org-roamV2. - [ ] v0.4 - migration to Vulpea database extension capabilities.
- [ ] v0.5 - querying and viewing.
- [ ] v0.6 - inventory solutions (built-in and external like lib-inventory.el).
Migration to v0.4
As part of vino#121, vino stopped maintaining its own database and instead started to use Vulpea database extension mechanism that basically allows to extend Org Roam database. So all your vino data is now stored inside org-orma-db-location. This is a change that breaks API by removing some variables and functions.
The decision to use Vulpea database extension capabilities is dictated by desire to (a) reduce parsing duplication, (b) to align database lifecycle with vulpea and Org Roam, (c) to reduce code and (d) to get all Vulpea goodies related to database out of box (more to come).
Removed public variables
vino-db-location, useorg-roam-db-locationinstead.vino-db-gc-threshold, useorg-roam-db-gc-thresholdinstead.
Removed public functions
vino-db-sync, useorg-roam-db-syncinstead.
Anything else?
If you encounter troubles migrating to v0.4, feel free to open an issue.
Getting started
Installing
vino is not available via MELPA, so you can install it manually, using straight, quelpa, or any other tool. Once installed, you need to call vino-setup once.
Keep in mind that vino depends on vulpea.
straight.el
(straight-use-package vulpea)
(vulpea-setup)
(straight-use-package
'(vino :type git :host github :repo "d12frosted/vino"))
(vino-setup)
;; optionally sync the database
(org-roam-db-sync)In case you have integration with use-package:
(use-package vino
:straight (vino
:type git
:host github
:repo "d12frosted/vino")
:hook
(after-init . vino-setup)
:config
;; optionally sync the database when vino is loaded
(org-roam-db-sync))Configuration
There are several things that you must configure before using vino:
org-roam-directory- this is where yourvinofiles will be located. See Notes structure for more information on how to structure this directory.vino-rating-props- this variable describes your rating system. See Configure rating system for more information on how to setup this variable.vino-availability-fn- function to check availability ofvino-entry. It is called withIDofvino-entryand must return a cons of acquired and consumed numbers, e.g.(const 10 4)means that this particular wine was acquired 10 times and consumed 4 times, making 6 available.vino-availability-add-fn- function to add certain amount ofvino-entryto your cellar. Function is called withIDofvino-entry, amount, source and date arguments.vino-availability-sub-fn- function to subtract certain amount ofvino-entryfrom your cellar. Function is called withIDofvino-entry, amount, action and date arguments.vino-sources-fn- function to list wine sources. Used in, for example, completion of sources when you acquire a wine. Function is called withIDofvino-entry.
Optionally you can configure the following variables:
vino-carbonation-types- list of carbonation types, e.g.stillandsparkling. Modify it in case you want to be more granular, e.g.traditional-sparkling,pet-nat, etc.vino-colour-types- list of wine colours, e.g.red,whiteandrose. You might want to addorangeunless you are marking them aswhite.vino-sweetness-levels- a property list where key is carbonation type and value is list of sweetness levels (e.g.dry,sweet, etc).vino-rating-template- template for a new wine ratings. See template configuration section for more information.vino-rating-extra-meta- a list of additional meta to be queried when rating a wine. See itโs documentation for more information.vino-entry-template- template a for new wine entry. See template configuration section for more information.vino-grape-template- template for a new grape note. Useful when selecting a grape for wine entry that does not exist or when callingvino-grape-create. See template configuration section for more information.vino-producer-template- template for a new producer note. Used byvino-producer-create. See template configuration section for more information.vino-region-template- template for a new region note. Used byvino-region-create. See template configuration section for more information.vino-appellation-template- template for a new appellation note. Used byvino-appellation-create. See template configuration section for more information.
Example configuration
Mandatory values (uses functions from +inventory.el).
(setq
org-roam-directory (concat (getenv "HOME")
"/org-roam/")
vino-rating-props '((1 . (("SCORE" . 3)))
(2 . (("AROMA_QUALITY" . 3)
("AROMA_INTENSITY" . 2)
("AROMA_COMPLEXITY" . 3)
("BALANCE" . 3)
("FLAVOURS" . 2)
("AFTERTASTE" . 3)
("GENERAL" . 4))))
vino-availability-fn
(lambda (id)
(cons
(inventory-total-in wine-inventory-file id)
(inventory-total-out wine-inventory-file id)))
vino-availability-add-fn
(lambda (id amount source date)
(inventory-add wine-inventory-file id amount source date))
vino-availability-sub-fn
(lambda (id amount action date)
(inventory-sub wine-inventory-file id amount action date))
vino-sources-fn
(lambda (_)
(inventory-sources wine-inventory-file)))Optional variables (with their default values):
(setq
vino-carbonation-types '(still
sparkling)
vino-colour-types '(red
white
rose)
vino-sweetness-levels (list 'still '(dry
semi-dry
semi-sweet
sweet)
'sparkling '(brut-nature
extra-brut
brut
extra-dry
dry
demi-sec
doux))
vino-rating-extra-meta (list
(list
:name "location"
:read-fn (lambda ()
(vulpea-select "Location"))
:mode 'single
:type 'note)
(list
:name "convive"
:read-fn (lambda ()
(vulpea-select
"Convive"
:filter-fn (lambda (note)
(seq-contains-p
(vulpea-note-tags note)
"people"))))
:mode 'multiple
:type 'note))
vino-rating-template (list :file-name "wine/rating/${id}.org")
vino-entry-template (list :file-name "wine/cellar/${id}.org")
vino-grape-template (list :file-name "wine/grape/%<%Y%m%d%H%M%S>-${slug}.org")
vino-producer-template (list :file-name "wine/producer/%<%Y%m%d%H%M%S>-${slug}.org")
vino-region-template (list :file-name "wine/region/%<%Y%m%d%H%M%S>-${slug}.org")
vino-appellation-template (list :file-name "wine/appellation/%<%Y%m%d%H%M%S>-${slug}.org"))Interactive functions
vino-entry-create- create a newvino-entryaccording tovino-entry-template. It interactively reads carbonation type, colour type, sweetness level, producer, name, vintage, appellation or region, grapes, alcohol level, sugar, resources and price. Producer, appellation, region and grapes are linked usingorg-roam.vino-entry-find-file- select and visitvino-entry.vino-entry-update- update visiting (or selected)vino-entry. It refreshesratingandavailability(usingvino-availability-fn). You rarely need to use this function, unless availability or rating is modified manually.vino-entry-update-title- update visiting (or selected)vino-entrytitle. It also changes the title of all linkedratings. You only need this function if you modify a producer name, wine entry name or vintage manually and want to update everything. Might take a while, depending on amount of linkedratings.vino-entry-set-grapes- set grapes of visiting (or selected)vino-entryby replacing existing.vino-entry-set-region- set region (or appellation) of visiting (or selected)vino-entryby replacing existing.vino-entry-acquire- acquire visiting (or selected)vino-entry. Reads a source, amount, price and date, and callsvino-availability-add-fn.vino-entry-consume- consume visiting (or selected)vino-entry. Reads a action, amount and date, and callsvino-availability-sub-fn. For convenience also asks you to rate entry if the action isconsume.vino-entry-rate- rate a visiting (or selected)vino-entry. Reads a date, props defined byvino-rating-props, creates a new rating note according tovino-rating-templateand creates a link between wine and rating.vino-grape-create- create a newgrapenote according tovino-grape-template.vino-grape-find-file- select and visitgrapenote.vino-producer-create- create a newproducernote according tovino-producer-template.vino-producer-find-file- select and visitproducernote.vino-region-create- create a newregionnote according tovino-region-template.vino-appellation-create- create a newappellationnote according tovino-appellation-template.vino-region-find-file- select and visitregionorappellationnote.
Notes structure
vino assumes the following structure of your org-roam-directory:
.
โโโ wine
โโโ appellation
โย ย โโโ cerasuolo_di_vittoria_docg.org
โย ย โโโ etna_doc.org
โย ย โโโ igp_terre_siciliane.org
โย ย โโโ ...
โโโ cellar
โย ย โโโ 2c012cee-878b-4199-9d3b-782d671bd198.org
โย ย โโโ 4faf700f-c8b9-403d-977c-8dee9e577514.org
โย ย โโโ b20373db-43d3-4f2c-992c-6c6b5a4f3960.org
โย ย โโโ c9937e3e-c83d-4d8d-a612-6110e6706252.org
โย ย โโโ ...
โโโ grape
โย ย โโโ frappato.org
โย ย โโโ nerello_mascalese.org
โย ย โโโ nero_d_avola.org
โย ย โโโ ...
โโโ producer
โย ย โโโ arianna_occhipinti.org
โย ย โโโ pyramid_valley.org
โย ย โโโ ...
โโโ rating
โย ย โโโ be7777a9-7993-44cf-be9e-0ae65297a35d.org
โย ย โโโ bbc0c0f6-6f85-41a8-a386-f2017ceeaeb3.org
โย ย โโโ 727d03f3-828a-4957-aaa9-a19fd0438a15.org
โย ย โโโ d9e29c8e-06af-41d3-a573-72942cea64da.org
โย ย โโโ a5022e95-4584-43bd-ac55-599a942a6933.org
โย ย โโโ ...
โโโ region
โโโ central_otago.org
โโโ gisborne.org
โโโ kumeu.org
โโโ ...
Itโs totally fine to have other notes in your org-roam-directory and even in wine folder. Storing vino files in dedicated directories is not mandatory, it just better organises notes.
Appellation/region
Each file represents either an appellation (like Cerasuolo di Vittoria DOCG or Morgon AOC) or a wine region (like Central Otago in New Zealand or Codru in Moldova). There are no restrictions on these files, except for presence of appellation or region tag in addition to wine tag. See Tags section for more information.
$ cat wine/region/20201214120801-codru.org :PROPERTIES: :ID: b5758d14-61a2-4255-a47d-3cff3b58b321 :END: #+title: Codru #+filetags: wine region - country :: [[id:6ce0bd2d-9018-4c5f-b896-639a85a6e7a4][Moldova]] Codru wine region is located in the central area of [[id:6ce0bd2d-9018-4c5f-b896-639a85a6e7a4][Moldova]]. More than 60% of vineyards are located in this region. Two biggest cellars in the world ([[id:2374143f-5b7e-46ae-9ffc-649f529aaf70][Mileศtii Mici]] and [[id:849a36b0-b24b-49e6-9e5d-19fc7ee13a78][Cricova]]) are located here.
Producer
Each file represents a producer (like Occhipinti or Vino di Anna). There are no restrictions on these files, except for presence of producer tag in addition to wine tag. See Tags section for more information.
$ cat wine/producer/20200511140611-arianna_occhipinti.org :PROPERTIES: :ID: 8f62b3bd-2a36-4227-a0d3-4107cd8dac19 :END: #+title: Arianna Occhipinti #+filetahs: wine producer @AriannaOcchipinti - resources :: [[https://www.bowlerwine.com/producer/occhipinti][bowlerwine.com]] Arianna Occhipinti is a winemaker from [[id:3717adb1-4815-4ba6-9730-a884554214c9][Vittoria]] who founded her own winery in 2004, bottled her first commercial vintage in 2006 and today works exclusively with estate fruit. Her 25 hectares feature only autochthonous varieties - 50% [[id:b968250e-2035-4b18-bd9f-fce99d5f9915][Frappato]], 35% [[id:c9731b65-61f8-4007-9dbf-d54056f55cc4][Nero d'Avola]] and 15% white varieties [[id:63532852-c67a-4b8d-ac42-1ae9be28610e][Albanello]] and [[id:ab59e210-e7ed-4362-832c-4c4daa2b9e05][Zibibbo]]. Almost all vines are young as she planted them, most of them a guyot-trained. But she also added to her holdings 60-years-old albarello-trained vines which she initially rented. ...
Grape
Each file represents a producer (like Occhipinti or Vino di Anna). There are no restrictions on these files, except for presence of producer tag in addition to wine tag. See Tags section for more information.
$ cat wine/grape/20200406154953-nerello_mascalese.org :PROPERTIES: :ID: 9c1a5bec-9390-429e-bea9-4f1cce05f79c :END: #+title: Nerello Mascalese #+filetags: wine grape - resources :: [[https://winefolly.com/grapes/nerello-mascalese/][Winefolly]] - resources :: [[https://italianwinecentral.com/variety/nerello-mascalese/][italianwinecentral.com]] A rare red Sicilian grape producing fine light to medium-bodied red wines reminiscent of Pinot Noir. The best examples are found growing on the volcanic soils of Mount Etna. Primary flavours: - Dried [[id:7a945d62-b5f0-4542-bb1a-f4c8f9dd736b][Cherry]] - Orange [[id:8403a37b-be67-4efc-92f1-377aea0c8c50][Zest]] - Dried [[id:83a86596-437f-4931-a147-af1bd7734d28][Thyme]] - [[id:76cef2c9-0fc7-4802-8873-1c78a6be21da][Allspice]] - Crushed [[id:3b843816-3c5b-4758-89f6-804596087881][Gravel]] Taste profile: - sweetness: bone-dry - body: medium-light - tannins: medium - acidity: medium-high - alcohol: 11.5-13.5% ABV Handling - serve: 12-15ยฐC - glass type: [[id:a88ce31d-bfb0-4343-9359-c4a366ad6a6b][Aroma Collector Glass]] - decant: 30 minutes - cellar: 10+ years
Vino entry
Each file represents a wine, specified by producer, name and vintage. Obviously, you donโt need to create separate files for two bottles of La Stoppa Ageno 2015, but you definitely need separate note from La Stoppa Ageno 2017 (vintage is different).
Itโs best if you create a vino entry using vino-entry-create interactive function. It reads all required information, creates new file (uses ID as file name), fills it will provided information and links producer, grapes, appellation and region.
Vino entry is defined as a cl-struct:
(cl-defstruct vino-entry
carbonation
colour
sweetness
producer
name
vintage
appellation
region
grapes
alcohol
sugar
resources
price
acquired
consumed
rating
ratings)Most of the fields are mandatory, except for:
vintage- unless specified, printed asNVstring;sugar- unless specified, printed asNAstring;rating- unlessratingslist is non-nil, printed asNAstring;ratings- unless empty, omitted from the file.
Title if the file is set automatically upon creation and can be updated using vino-entry-update-title if you modify something manually. This also updates the title of linked rating files.
Availability is modified using vino-entry-acquire and vino-entry-consume. In case you edited availability manually outside, use vino-entry-update to sync it.
Rating is updated automatically upon using vino-entry-rate and can be updated using vino-entry-update if you modify any rating note manually.
Vino entry files require the presence of cellar tag in addition to wine tag. See Tags section for more information.
$ cat wine/cellar/c9937e3e-c83d-4d8d-a612-6110e6706252.org :PROPERTIES: :ID: c9937e3e-c83d-4d8d-a612-6110e6706252 :END: #+title: Arianna Occhipinti Bombolieri BB 2017 #+filetags: wine cellar - carbonation :: still - colour :: red - sweetness :: dry - producer :: [[id:8f62b3bd-2a36-4227-a0d3-4107cd8dac19][Arianna Occhipinti]] - name :: Bombolieri BB - vintage :: 2017 - appellation :: [[id:8353e2fc-8034-4540-8254-4b63fb5a421a][IGP Terre Siciliane]] - grapes :: [[id:cb1eb3b9-6233-4916-8c05-a3a4739e0cfa][Frappato]] - alcohol :: 13 - sugar :: 1 - price :: 50.00 EUR - acquired :: 2 - consumed :: 1 - available :: 1 - resources :: [[http://www.agricolaocchipinti.it/it/vinicontrada][agricolaocchipinti.it]] - rating :: NA #+begin_quote Il Frappato stems from a dream which I had when I was a girl to make a wine that knows the land that I work, the air I breath, and my own thoughts. It is bitter, bloody and elegant. That is Vittoria and the Iblei Mountains. It is the wine that most resembles me, brave, original and rebellious. But not only. It has peasant origins, for this it loves its roots and the past that it brings in; but, at the same time, it is able to fight to improve itself. It knows refinement without forgetting itself. Arianna Occhipinti #+end_quote
Vino rating
Each file represents a rating or a tasting note, specified by vino entry and tasting date. You should create a new rating using vino-entry-rate. It reads rating values according to vino-rating-props, creates a file (with ID as file name) and fills it will provided information. Then it links newly created rating from vino entry and updates the latter.
Rating files require the presence of rating tag in addition to wine tag. See
Tags section for more information.
$ cat wine/rating/f1ecb856-c009-4a65-a8d0-8191a9de66dd.org :PROPERTIES: :ID: f1ecb856-c009-4a65-a8d0-8191a9de66dd :END: #+title: Arianna Occhipinti Bombolieri BB 2017 - 2021-01-15 #+filetags: wine rating - wine :: [[id:c9937e3e-c83d-4d8d-a612-6110e6706252][Arianna Occhipinti Bombolieri BB 2017]] - date :: 2021-01-15 - version :: 1 - score :: 14 - score_max :: 20 - total :: 7.0
Tags
Each vino file must contain a wine tag in addition to type tag (appellation, region, producer, grape, cellar or rating), meaning that each file must contain a respective #+filetags property:
:PROPERTIES: :ID: 1f4e920e-bfd4-4624-8445-fa8480962c17 :END: #+title: La Stoppa Ageno 2015 #+filetags: wine cellar ...
Files are tagged automatically by vino when entities are being created. You can not change that. But since tags in #+filetags property are subject to inheritance, you should add vino tags to org-tags-exclude-from-inheritance (which is done for you in vino-setup) or disable inheritance completely by setting org-use-tag-inheritance to nil.
Database
vino extends Org Roam database with tables that can be used for fast querying of information. Right now there are no interactive uses for this database, they are planned in v0.6 and v0.5. But you already can build something on your own.
Available tables (see vulpea-db--tables for full specification):
cellar- containsvino-entry(see Vino entry) with some technical metadata (id,fileandhash);ratings- containsvino-rating(see Vino rating) with some technical metadata (id,fileandhash).
In order to build database you need to manually call org-roam-db-sync (either from your init.el file after vino-setup or interactively).
If you properly installed vino (e.g. called vino-setup), then every time you modify and save a file, database will be automatically updated.
In order to query information from database you might use org-roam-db-query:
;; query top rated wines with rating >= 9
(org-roam-db-query
[:select [producer name vintage rating]
:from cellar
:where (>= rating 9)
:order-by rating :desc])How to โฆ
Configure templates
All the notes created by vino are created using vulpea-create function according to the configurable templates:
vino-grape-templatevino-producer-templatevino-region-templatevino-appellation-templatevino-entry-templatevino-rating-template
Each template is a property list accepting following values:
:file-name(mandatory) - file name relative toorg-roam-directory;:head(optional) - extra header of the created note;:body(optional) - body of the created note;:tags(optional) - extra tags for the created note;:properties(optional) - extra properties to put intoPROPERTIESblock;:context(optional) - extra variables for:file-name,:head,:bodytemplates.
The template is transformed into vulpea-create call by:
- providing title (usually read interactively);
- providing
file-namefrom template; - providing tags according to entity being created;
- providing
head,body,propertiesandcontextfrom template; - setting
:unnarrowedand:immediate-finishboth tot.
Configure rating system
Rating is configured by vino-rating-prop. My experience shows that rating system evolves over time. You start with something simple (like a capped number), then little by little you start to make your rating system more complex, until one day itโs too complex and you return to something simpler :D
So vino-rating-prop is a list of all your rating systems, starting with the first version up to your current. This variable has the following format:
'((1 . PROPS)
(2 . PROPS)
(3 . PROPS)
...)And PROPS defines a specific version of rating system:
(("PROP_1" . PROP)
("PROP_2" . PROP)
("PROP_3" . PROP)
...)Each PROP can be of one of the following types:
number- then the property value is a number inclusively between0andPROP, user is prompted for a number usingread-numberduringvino-entry-rate;list- then the property value is a number inclusively between0and the length ofPROP, user is prompted to select one element from the listcarโs usingcompleting-readduringvino-entry-rateand thecdrof selected element is used as value;function- then the property value is a number between0andcdrofPROPresult, function is called with without arguments duringvino-entry-rateandcarof the result is used as value.
Final score is calculated as sum of the values divided by sum of max values and multiplied by 10. So the final rating is a floating number from 0 to 10.
Here are several examples to illustrate.
- Simple rating system that allows user to assign a single number from
0to3which is stored asSCORE.(setq vino-rating-props '((1 . (("SCORE" . 3)))))
- Another simple rating system that uses multiple properties.
(setq vino-rating-props '((2 . (("AROMA_QUALITY" . 3) ("AROMA_INTENSITY" . 2) ("AROMA_COMPLEXITY" . 3) ("BALANCE" . 3) ("FLAVOURS" . 2) ("AFTERTASTE" . 3) ("GENERAL" . 4)))))
- A complex use cases that uses a function for
AROMA_QUALITY(so default value is 3, but if wine has any taints, the value is decreased) and lists for everything else.(setq vino-rating-props '((3 . (("AROMA_QUALITY" . (lambda () (let* ((total 3) (res total) (ans t) (quit-on "no taints") (opts (list quit-on "aggressive ethanol" "massive brett attack" "VA, especially nail polish removal"))) (while ans (setq ans (completing-read "Any taints? " opts)) (setq opts (delete ans opts)) (if (string-equal ans "no taints") (setq ans nil) (setq res (max 0 (- res 1)))) (when (equal res 0) (setq ans nil))) (cons res total)))) ("AROMA_INTENSITY" . (("aroma can be perceived without putting nose into glass" . 2) ("aroma can be perceived only by putting nose into glass" . 1) ("closed, you need to put a lot of effort to get the aroma" . 0))) ("AROMA_RICHNESS" . (("more than 3 different notes" . 3) ("only 3 notes" . 2) ("only 2 notes" . 1) ("only 1 note" . 0))) ("AROMA_COMPLEXITY" . (("sophisticated, multilayered" . 1) ("simple" . 0))) ("BALANCE" . (("perfectly balanced, everything is in its place" . 3) ("well balanced, might be a small issue" . 2) ("average, either one bigger issue or two small" . 1) ("unbalanced, everything else" . 0))) ("FLAVOURS" . (("multiple flavours" . 1) ("only one flavour" . 0))) ("EVOLUTION" . (("taste and flavours evolve over time in mouth" . 1) ("plain, straightforward" . 0))) ("AFTERTASTE" . (("long, lasting more than 30 seconds" . 2) ("average, lasting more than 10 seconds" . 1) ("short" . 0))) ("GENERAL" . (("life changing" . 4) ("great wine, I will definitely look into tasting it once more" . 3) ("good wine, will drink it again with pleasure if situation arises" . 2) ("average wine, only with parents" . 1) ("bad wine, only for enemies" . 0)))))))
Store images and other attachments
vino operates with org-mode files, meaning that you can use org-attach to store images as well as other attachments. Refer to Org mode documentation for more information.
Query additional metadata when creating a new wine entry
See vino#65.
Query additional metadata when rating a wine entry
See vino#64.
Coding
vino is developed using eldev. If you are using flycheck, it is advised to also use flycheck-eldev, as it makes dependencies and project files available thus mitigating false negative results from default Emacs Lisp checker.
Building and testing
vino tests are written using buttercup testing framework. And eldev is used to run them both locally and on CI. In order to run the tests locally, first install eldev and then run:
$ make testPlease note, that the linter is used in this project, so you might want to run it as well:
$ make lintFAQ
Why not generalise?
My experience shows that some parts of the code base can be shared for tracking other things, like tea (I have a decent collection of tea, that I also track and rate) and books. And I am sure there are many more uses cases.
But since most of the time I write about wine, I want to focus solely on this topic and avoid making perfect an enemy of good.
That being said, please contact me if you wish to use it for other things, I would love to hear your use case and help you with building solution for you.
Why not Cellar Tracker, Vivino, etc.?
Frankly speaking, I donโt trust them to be my source of truth. In my sense both services have the following drawbacks:
- Data is not owned by you.
- No API to get your information.
- There is no way to modify invalid data.
- Requires internet connection.
- Not helpful for learning - every piece of information is already there.
- Hard limit on amount of information you can put there.
- Not extensible.
vino is about learning about wine, owning your data and extending your tools. With the power of org-roam you can do everything :)
That being said, I still use Vivino for:
- Reading tasting notes of peoples whose opinion I respect. This also helps me to find new interesting bottles available in my location.
- Sharing some of my notes. This stimulates me to work on short and concise tasting notes.
So you can use both!
Acknowledgements
Logo was created by Iryna Rutylo.